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How you handle relationships where only one is vegan?
Will you buy non vegan stuff?

If this is so important, you can always decide for yourself which one is more important to you - being vegan or having a relationship.

I think it is okay and I have seen for myself couples whose relationships are quite normal even though one of the partners is vegan and the other isn't. I think the most important things in these kinds of relationships are open-communication, understanding and respect. Without these virtues it will be very hard to maintain this kind of relationship.

I'm in a mixed relationship. Its good that I get to study the situation, but I do not rest easy in the situation. When we're separate I seem to move in to my truer self. She fasted a bit one day last week, and we drank some beer, and the spirit was nice. Perhaps its to keep me from hanging around the house all day. I do not like to sleep with her because of the energy. I wake up at war. It seems a marriage made in heaven.

Just figured out I'm not vegan if the female of the species isn't, so we'll be seeing y'all!

I have problems with this kind of relationships... I don't want to spend my money for sponsoring butchers and my girlfriends usually don't get it... so I end up splitting apart. Tried to convert my last girlfriend and it turned into a disaster... Sad story actually...

Similar to trying to convince your girlfriend to become anorexic, since veganism and vegetarianism are basically the deprivation of entire food groups at a time.........

MomoPeach wrote:Similar to trying to convince your girlfriend to become anorexic, since veganism and vegetarianism are basically the deprivation of entire food groups at a time.........

Or to convince your girlfriend to not smoke, although while smoking you're mostly damaging yourself, and sometimes when you do not care you're damaging people around you, but when you're eating meat you always directly supporting killing of innocent animals, i.e. causing of more suffering than on vegan diet.

Eating meat is normal, in case you have not noticed in the time you have lived on this Earth.

MomoPeach wrote:Eating meat is normal, in case you have not noticed in the time you have lived on this Earth.

Slavery was also normal some time ago, now it's illegal.

Slavery was wrong. Eating meat is not.

MomoPeach wrote:Slavery was wrong. Eating meat is not.

I've asked you this, will ask you again, how they are different?

That's just how it is! You guys are so dumb.PEOPLE EAT MEAT. Get it into your "I-wanna-be-different" heads. Why can't you just be normal like everyone else? There is nothing wrong with eating meat. Meat is animals, and people just eat animals. That's what they do. You don't need to ask "why" for everything. Things are the way they are because that's how it is. That's how it always has been. You think you can change the whole world with some crazy idea.

Nice, MomoPreach, nice! So in one of your previous lifes you were saying something like:

"That's just how it is! You guys are so dumb. PEOPLE OWN SLAVES Get it into your "I-wanna-be-different" heads. Why can't you just be normal like everyone else? There is nothing wrong with owning slaves. Slaves are black and stupid, and people just own them. That's what they do. You don't need to ask "why" for everything. Things are the way they are because that's how it is. That's how it always has been. You think you can change the whole world with some crazy idea. "

Backwood wrote:Nice, MomoPreach, nice! So in one of your previous lifes you were saying something like:

"That's just how it is! You guys are so dumb. PEOPLE OWN SLAVES Get it into your "I-wanna-be-different" heads. Why can't you just be normal like everyone else? There is nothing wrong with owning slaves. Slaves are black and stupid, and people just own them. That's what they do. You don't need to ask "why" for everything. Things are the way they are because that's how it is. That's how it always has been. You think you can change the whole world with some crazy idea. "

That's just awesome!

For me, this question is the same as saying, "What kind of a relationship should I have with a smoker? Alcoholic? Drug addict? Criminal? Mentally ill person?

I treat non vegans like people who don't know the truth--especially if they are the type person who hangs out at McDonald's and has diabetes, cardiovascular disease, or cancer. Live and let live. Everybody has a right to live and die the way they want. I don't have much respect for people who are killing themselves. I don't want to copy them, debate them or be influenced by them. I usually just say "hello," and let them do what they want.

Ron

I tried very hard and was very unsuccesful at being just vegetarian while with my EX the carnivore (wouldn't call eating dead vegetables being an omnivore).

We just couldn't make things work having two completly diffrent views on what to put into our body and our child's body. However a good friend of mine was able to guide her partner into a vegetarian and slowly into a vegan diet and he is very happy with the change but probably because he always had a thought or interest in his mind about it.

Honestly, I wouldn't care how my partner( if I had one) eats. It would be their choice, not mine. The only caveat id have is if the partner didn't respect my dietary choices.

For the record, my best friend's boyfriend is a carnivore. My friend is an ovo lacto vegetarian. We both drool when he eats flesh. Sorry, but it smells great. What can I say? I'm not an elitist ( well, I am when it comes to music; I'm a huge snob...) and I refuse to force my dietary choices/views on others. As I always say, ' each to their own'. It isn't my place to dictate to others...

I think we have the same idea of it snog... I do believe in true love, so if we really love that person we will try to understand his diet as well as he respects ours...

I haven't really been in this situation since going vegan, and was only briefly as a vegetarian. I'm a little anxious/excited to see how it turns out. Of course, I would ideally love to find someone who is also a vegetarian, but so far no luck. ;P


As for trying to convert them, I don't think I'm overly comfortable with that. I would definitely answer any questions asked, show them delicious recipes and make them great vegan food but in the end, not much you can do. However, I wouldn't cook meals with meat or animal products, or buy them at restaurants so...

I guess I'll have to see.

does this mean that you are not in a relationship right now? Circularmotion

meign wrote:does this mean that you are not in a relationship right now? Circularmotion

Correct. There does not seem to be an abundance of male vegetarians here. :/ Or even one lol

They might be hiding somewhere... might be in a common hiding place... when you found 1 you'll find them all... Don't worry I'll help you with that... ANY SINGLE MALE out there!!! lol

Sorry meign...for some crazy reason I thought you were a man! oops

My wife is a carnivore and I don't mind at all. She has strong beliefs about animal rights and likes my vegan and vegetarian food. So she doesn't eat meat much and when she does, I don't ever cook it. I can't even touch it. In her defence, she has a health condition that is digestive and causes her to lose her appetite (as well as much nastier symptoms). When she wants to eat, she eats whatever is most enticing. I'm bored of telling her how a meat-free diet would be better and she's bored of hearing it. So we just accept each other.

I'm a big believer in tolerance and acceptance. Doesn't stop me feeling superior though!

Moma peach... people eat meat just because they do, and we should too, isn't much of an argument really is it? I wonder why the thought of vegans upsets you so much? I'd love to hear your views. There is little I'd love more than for the whole world to be vegan and animal exploitation to have ended. And for me to be more like everyone else because of this.

Sergio wrote:How you handle relationships where only one is vegan?

I dont see how you can call yourself vegan and give a meat eater pleasure. Thats like watching a child molester rape torture kill an infant and then inviting him/her to goodtimes dinner & movie and making love to him/her afterwards.

I call myself vegan because I don't eat, drink or consume any animal products at all. I think that's the criteria

But I can hear what you're saying. And it's an argument you could extend to all areas of your life. Should I work for a carnivore, buy something I need from a carnivore or even allow a carnivore into my house? Is it a separatist existance you're living, meateatereater? I can understand why that would make sense. But it also limits the opportunities to set an example and get your message out there.

I prefer boycotting the big businesses that perpetrate so much animal suffering. (You know the ones I'm talking about.) I loathe them with a passion. I fully believe that if they stopped it and started selling ethical products, people would just mindlessly buy those instead.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

rawvegron wrote:For me, this question is the same as saying, "What kind of a relationship should I have with a smoker? Alcoholic? Drug addict? Criminal? Mentally ill person?

I treat non vegans like people who don't know the truth--especially if they are the type person who hangs out at McDonald's and has diabetes, cardiovascular disease, or cancer. Live and let live. Everybody has a right to live and die the way they want. I don't have much respect for people who are killing themselves. I don't want to copy them, debate them or be influenced by them. I usually just say "hello," and let them do what they want.

Ron

Really? Comparing meat-eaters to mentally ill people? People who don't know the truth? I've been eating vegan, and it's a PERSONAL CHOICE. I'm starting to hate all these fricken self-righteous vegans forcing their views on everyone, thinking they are superiour. Nobody wants to hear it, and NOBODY likes have views forced upon them, like a religious person trying time and time again to convert you. So, enough ranting..

I date a hunter/fisherman. He doesn't really like my vegan choice (doesn't understand it), but he does not eat much processed meat, only what he hunts. His meat is as pure as you can get, and has led a fulfilling life, until nature or the circle of life or whatever you want to call it came along. We've been dating almost two years and live together, and that won't be changing because of something so silly as our eating habits. I make my vegan meal and he adds meat to it after, no big deal.

Nobody wants to hear it, and NOBODY likes have views forced upon them, like a religious person trying time and time again to convert you. So, enough ranting..

I would say even more, NOBODY wants to be killed and eaten - be it human or non human animal.
"Forcing" an idea upon somebody - hm... it happens to everybody starting from the day they are born. Like "It's not ok to steal", "You should pay taxes" etc. The difference is that these ideas are accepted by the majority in the civilized countries.

As a matter of fact the idea of the necessity to eat meat is forced upon us from the childhood. All the "You will be sick if you don't eat meat. Eat meat to be strong. Where will you take the proteins from" etc. All the butcheries are hidden from our views, even on youtube some videos are being banned because they are too violent. But for butcheries this is the everyday life - like it or not.

Dating and living with a vegan partner is The Best thing that can happen to a Vegan. Especially if they love each other.
For this to happen more often we have to actively promote this lifestyle, not only for the sake of animals and environment but for the sake of our happiness.

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Really? Comparing meat-eaters to mentally ill people? People who don't know the truth? I've been eating vegan, and it's a PERSONAL CHOICE. I'm starting to hate all these fricken self-righteous vegans forcing their views on everyone, thinking they are superiour. Nobody wants to hear it, and NOBODY likes have views forced upon them, like a religious person trying time and time again to convert you. So, enough ranting..(quote)


I agree with the above. It's not my right to chastise some one for not eating a vegan diet, etc. I think that by behaving in a sanctimonious and self rightous manner, a person is only gonna alienate those people who may well be receptive to following a vegan lifestyle.

It is all about a mutual understanding, if a person is in true love, then he/she can change habit of being a vegetarian or non-vegetarian, or both can just retain there habit, and don't argue on being a vegetarian or a non-vegetarian.Love is all about sacrifice so some times you have to sacrifice all your habits.

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