AdamD wrote: philosopher wrote:
AdamD wrote:Cheap is a relative term, for an average middle class person 2.79 is fine.
For the kind of person who needs to make their own food, perhaps not.
Please stop taking claims out of context, milk is a foodstuff, not a disease, ergo your comparison is terribad.
The error is on your part. You are using the "ready availability" of milk as a reason to drink it. This implies that something being readily available is good, seeing as it's a good enough reason for you to drink milk. This is a logical fallacy.
$2.79 a gallon for milk is not cheap. Not when you account for the added risk of heart disease, osteoporosis, auto-immune responses, asthma, etc. that come with every gallon.
Ready availability of food dictating what people eat is a logical fallacy now? I'm quite sure that the readily availability of different foodstuffs has dictate what was good to eat or not for well...forever!
I believe that the vegan lifestyle has its fair share of risks as well e.g.:
Osteoporosis as a result of a lack of calcium causing bone demineralization
Rickets in children due to a lack of vitamin D
Iron-Deficiency Anemia due to low iron storage. One study found that 27% of women and 5% of men who were lacto-ovo-vegetarians had low serum ferritin levels (iron storage)
Macrocytic Anemia due to vitamin B-12 deficiency. This has been observed in infants breast-fed by mothers who are strict vegetarians.
So let's not pretend that drinking milk is any less healthy than ingesting any other kind of food or drink. All in moderation!
* Emaciation or Slow Growth in vegetarian infants and children
A food item being readily available doesn't make it good to eat. Milk is readily available in the States due to government subsidies for corn used to feed cows, along with additional handouts to the dairy industry. This does not make milk good. Ingesting animal products has been proven to clog arteries in humans, yet animal products are readily available. Does this make those products good? Clearly, no.
Your risks aren't accurate, let me explain:
People in developed nations get osteoporosis from ingesting animal products. Excessive protein actually leaches calcium from the body. Ever wonder why people who drink the most milk have higher levels of osteoporosis? A few vegan foods high in calcium are; artichokes, asparagus, beans, beets, broccoli, bok choy, chili peppers, carrots, kale, sesame seeds, celery, etc. Doctors have stated that it is nearly impossible to not get enough calcium in a day unless you are calorie deficient.
Vitamin D is added to milk in processing plants, milk is not naturally rich with vitamin D. Vegan food items high in vitamin D; soymilk, quaker oatmeal, mushrooms, orange juice, butternut squash, broccoli, (and sunlight of course).
Lots and lots of foods provide adequate iron. http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm
Every vegan takes a B-12 supplement. It can be made with plants. I've read studies that stated adequate B-12 levels stay in the body for years without purposely taking supplements. Most ricemilk, are soymilk have B-12. There are many other foods also that are fortified with B-12, so it's not really a problem at all.