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AndyBa
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Posted: Feb 19, 2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Diet vs Exercise Reply with quote

What have more influence on health, Diet or Exercise?
I heard that Exercise is more effective.. i.e. for health it's more important to exercise then to keep a strict diet.
What do you think?
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Posted: Feb 20, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'n my case diet is very significant. albino
I don't have too much time to exercise... that's if we don't take sex into consideration: 3some
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Posted: Feb 20, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me it's different. Since I'm vegetarian for a long time I don't
know how would I feel if I were not vegetarian. So exercise and sports
has crucial importance for my health. I instantly feel the difference
when I exercise regularly and when I don't.

Regarding 3some do you feel healthier after this?
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Posted: Feb 20, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did you post the same question twice? Anyway, I answered in the other thread.

Every real fitness expert will tell you that to stay fit&healthy you have to exercise a lot and follow a healthy (veg*an) diet. So the discussion you proposed would be like discussing the superiority of Xmas over Easter or vice versa.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a trainer so I say both are pretty effective. For me, a combo of resistance training and cardio along with six small veg meals a day keeps the metabolism running. Also, the more muscle mass you have, the more calories you burn. I'm still working on seeing ab definition (I'm female) but I do have the line down the middle.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad the forums are alife again!!!
And I love new design!!!!
Regarding the subject.. I think both are important!
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Posted: Feb 21, 2005 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bojster wrote:
Why did you post the same question twice? Anyway, I answered in the other thread.

One of them was posted long time ago and forgot about it. Sorry.
I can move you answer to this topic and remove that one.

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I'm still working on seeing ab definition (I'm female) but I do have the line down the middle.

Wow! I would like to see that.
Actually I started a thread with members' photos so you can post some of your photos if you wish.
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Posted: Feb 21, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm..don't have any specific ab pics but I'll post one of me anyway!



edit: cannot find said thread!
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Posted: Feb 21, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't talking about specific ab pics.
But anyway it would be nice to see them.
Here is the thread:
http://www.vegtalk.org/viewtopic.php?t=171
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Posted: Feb 22, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How will your wife react if she will find out that you a interested in other womens' abs?
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Posted: Feb 23, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree that you cannot have one without the other. The are both important. Not sure why the general public is so educated to believe that simply diet will make everything right (the fad marketing machine).

Of course, I am biased, and I believe veganism and cycling are the best combination, both for the environment and health!
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Posted: Feb 23, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome website, Matt! I used to live in California and biked everywhere. Now that I live in miserable Phoenix I'm afraid to ride anywhere. The chances are too good that one of these idiots are going to run me over. I actually run and rollerblade on sidewalks.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Do you rollerblade?
I rollerblade too!
How nice..
It's interesting how many vegetarians rollerblade?

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How will your wife react if she will find out that you a interested in other womens' abs?

It's really not your business and I don't have a wife now... so why don't you go and jerk exercise a little, may be it will calm you down...
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Posted: Feb 24, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love rollerblading..though I am sort of a klutz--but that doesn't stop me.

Of course it's been raining here for about 3 weeks straight so I may never get to go again.
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Posted: Feb 26, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh.. It's snowing over here... I will have to wait for spring to go rollerskating.
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Posted: Mar 6, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clusswoman wrote:
For me, a combo of resistance training and cardio along with six small veg meals a day keeps the metabolism running.

Six meals a day?!!! Isn't it too much? Or should I say too many?
Usually I eat 2 meals a day... in the best days I eat 3 meals a day.
But I never ate 5 not even mentioning 6 meals a day.
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Posted: Mar 7, 2005 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 "small" meals. For example:

B: cereal (Kashi is awesome)
S: piece of fruit
L: Pita with Falafel
S: small bowl of veggie soup or about 6 triscuits w/PB
D: 1/2 sweet potato and veggie patty
S: smoothie

The trick is to measure out "fist" sized portions with your hand or both carb and protein (don't forget a fist of veggies) for your main meals.

This is a super fat burner and healthy. Your body works better on continuous small meals as opppsed to a few large ones. This way fat doesn't get stored for when it needs fuel later. On 6 meals it just continuously runs!!
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Posted: Mar 10, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Diet from greek Dieta means - way of life more then just food preferences. So the initial subject isn't very correct.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Both Reply with quote

I think both eating healthy and dieting are crucial - and I say 'eating healthily' because 'diet' seems to apply eating certain things for a certain amount of time whereas 'eating healthily' can, and should, last a life time. Just think of how your mind and body could be by the time you're thirty, forty, fifty: you fill it with biscuits and chocolate or whatever for years and don't give you're body the respect it deserves you're gonna notice in later life. Exercise is essential for the heart, liver, lungs, even the digestive system ('cause it gets your bowels moving), so obviously, I'm passionate about the two.
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Posted: Aug 15, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Diet vs Exercises Reply with quote

i think both of them are equally important
there should be a proper balance between the two
so stay in proper health
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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 5:45 am    Post subject: Diet and exercise Reply with quote

a proper balance between the two of them will get yourse;lf the best results
so consult your dieticien for a good diet plan and consult your gym instructor for good exercise that he can recomend to you
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Posted: Dec 4, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clusswoman wrote:
I'm a trainer so I say both are pretty effective. For me, a combo of resistance training and cardio along with six small veg meals a day keeps the metabolism running. Also, the more muscle mass you have, the more calories you burn. I'm still working on seeing ab definition (I'm female) but I do have the line down the middle.

I agree to you here.....Diet and exercise are equally important. A balanced diet helps the body toned and heps you stay fit and energetic.
I compiled a few tips and FAQs for fitness and exercising enthusiasts.Here is the URL:
http://www.ccsports-online.co.uk/arena/tips.php.
I hope you enjoy it.
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Posted: Dec 5, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon they're both equally important too: if you diet without exercising, your body just seems to slow down and you feel rubbish If you exercise without watching what you eat, you seem to feel sluggish and end up not training effectively. Or I do...

Though, I've read a couple of articles recently about how toddlers naturally select food that provides all the nutrition they need, and people should just eat whatever their body is telling them it wants? Does anyone find that's the case?

Thanks for the link Ian. Was intrigued by the meditation tips: I've heard a lot of conflicting advice about how to meditate, can you recommend any sites? Thnx
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Posted: Dec 6, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both are important but at least Yoga claims it is more important to start having a proper diet than to start practicing exercises.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yoga claims it is more important to start having a proper diet than to start practicing exercises.

Hm.. it depends what is understood by exercise?
If someone works in office on PC the whole day, then walks just to his car to drive home, then watches tv at home without moving too much, then exercise is REALLY important to this person to stay healthy.

On the contrary if people live in villages like most did in India and their day consists mostly of physical work.. walking and such.. they don't need too much exercise.. already having enough.. but if you ever tried Indian cuisine you will understand why diet is important for Yoga
It's so damn spicy that a normal person can barely eat it!! The average Hindu eats 1 kg of black pepper per week.
I didn't eat that much pepper my whole life
And that's besides all the other spices they use.
And there was no TV and computers when Yoga was invented people were spending a huge amount of time outside among nature. Walking, running and working.
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AndyBa
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Posted: Jan 26, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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people should just eat whatever their body is telling them it wants? Does anyone find that's the case?

Yeah, I'm listening to my body.. especially if I have a choice
and I believe everyone should learn to..
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Posted: Jan 26, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyBa wrote:
Yeah, I'm listening to my body..

It's ok to listen to your body. Just don't listen to your stomach. That part of the body is very mean
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Posted: Jan 26, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is mean. My trousers split at work today! And there were loads of important people visiting!

And I love Indian food!

Maybe the above are connected in some way...
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Posted: Feb 1, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exersize is important..


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