Vegan Forum

Yet another reason why I don't like labeling myself as a vegan. You can call me whatever you like, it really doesn't matter. I was a "vegan" before I knew of that word. Arguing over the subject is a waste of time.

Ghandi was a fruitarian for awhile.

"For some reason I doubt chickens are often raped" You must not know anything about egg production. Is it true that vegans can substitute free-range products to factory farmed animal products? I know a vegan who chooses to eat eggs from her own personal chicken. You can do whatever you li...

"I would rather suffer some "embarrassment" than be responsible for the torture and gruesome murder of living beings", there you have it, you are fine with inconveniencing chefs etc at normal restaurants; and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. It would be naive, however...

Haha, so now you get to change the question, typical. This is an exercise in futility, your concept of 'good' could be completely different to mine so there is very little point in me even trying. But for the sake of meat worldwide: Meat is a social acceptable and readily available source of essent...

Cheap is a relative term, for an average middle class person 2.79 is fine. For the kind of person who needs to make their own food, perhaps not. Please stop taking claims out of context, milk is a foodstuff, not a disease, ergo your comparison is terribad. The error is on your part. You are using t...

Meatard! I'm not much for name calling, but that's funny.

"Vegan's are an inconvenience to hang out with. It's embarrassing for everyone else who eats with them to watch them make life harder for the chefs/staff in restaurants. It's even worse to have to cook for them yourself, having to make whole different dishes for them is a pain in the bum."...

Philosopher, your above post proves your specism. "I also consider humans to be worth more than carrots" Please try and be less hypocritical in the future. Sound argument for meat eating: I can and I like it. Now you could do what you usually do and say: " You can also murder kittens...

Cheap is a relative term, for an average middle class person 2.79 is fine. For the kind of person who needs to make their own food, perhaps not. Please stop taking claims out of context, milk is a foodstuff, not a disease, ergo your comparison is terribad. The error is on your part. You are using t...

"ChrisCross, are you stupid? I don't know why you wasted your time posting those links. You should know by now that I don't watch mind control videos or read mind-controling details about how the farms that are the worst of the worst treats their animals. I don't base everything on the tiniest ...

"Nutrients so affected include: energy, iron, calcium, zinc, copper, manganese, selenium, riboflavin and the fat soluble vitamins, particularly vitamin D. The best sources of these are meats, poultry and seafood, which are not eaten. " So many holes, where to start? First, I wasn't aware t...

He just needs to do more research. He'll find the truth some day

It's no secret that Hitler being a vegetarian is a myth.

http://www.naturalnews.com/025163.html

Wow... surely you cannot be serious.

I view it as more of a mindset. Part of the reason for me to being vegan is the idea of non-violence. If you are a non-violent person you will not want to kill any living thing (except plants to sustain your life).

I must admit that I didn't read the entire post because it was waaaay too long, and I can guess that it went something like this "You shouldn't be a vegan because B-12 is only found in meat." This is a very, VERY sad argument. Studies have shown that vegans and vegetarians have adequate le...

I wouldn't recommend a high protein diet. High protein intake leads to kidney failure, and several studies have been done proving that people in developed nations get too much protein. You only need around 10-15%.

It's pretty hard to say that you care about the earth while eating meat...not matter how it was raised or killed.

A vegetarian driving a Hummer has a smaller carbon footprint than a meat-eater driving a Prius.

Sounds like all the antibiotics in your dairy products were taking care of your swelling ear :) When people first go veg they almost always blame their ailments on their recent diet change. You may possibly be consuming a fruit or vegetable that you hadn't previously and are now getting an allergic ...

It sounds like you need to invest in a few vegan cookbooks!

I have made many meals that nobody knew were vegan.

As far as the "substitutes" go, I don't use them very often because whole foods are more nutritious and cheaper.

I agree with the above poster. I would eat as little meat as possible, and raise my own animals to make sure they were treated well. I believe humans are ultimately worth more than animals, but that doesn't mean we should treat animals poorly.

I also think that the Bible does not condemn nor condone eating meat, it is a personal decision. I do find it interesting however, that many great thinkers throughout history chose to abstain from animal flesh

"For some reason I doubt chickens are often raped" You must not know anything about egg production. Is it true that vegans can substitute free-range products to factory farmed animal products? I know a vegan who chooses to eat eggs from her own personal chicken. You can do whatever you lik...

"What about all of the people who work in the meat industry? Or the dairy industry? Or the wool, leather, etc. industry? If no one bought these things tons of families would be left homeless. People could starve. But I'm sure you don't mind a few humans losing their lives as long as a bee gets ...

I am also curious as to why you became vegan in the first place, or if you really are vegan at all. My sixth sense tells me (with your one whole post as proof) that you just came here to rial things up, and see if people would get angry. This would then fit your confirmation bias of vegans being ang...

frank911 wrote:being a vegan or not is about personal choice. religion and heritage has little to do with it.

Actually, religion has a lot to do with it. Many religions believe in pacifism. Many mennonites, Seventh Day Adventists, and Hindus are vegan.

"2. Let me repeat: Milk is very readily availible, and cheap" Milk is cheap? How cheap? Milk in my area today is $2.79. How much does it cost me to make ricemilk (which tastes much better and does not contain cholesterol)? Twenty cents. Since when is milk being readily available a logical ...

Adam, your post proved your speceism.

Lack of understanding does not equate to justification for eating plant matter. Until we can say with 100% certainty that plants cannot feel pain (i.e: never) vegans cannot justifiably take the moral high ground. Even if plants can't feel pain, like the poster above me said, they sure as heck don't...